Thursday, May 10, 2012

Viewing child porn on the web now legal in New York


“Merely viewing Web images of child pornography does not, absent other proof, constitute either possession or procurement within the meaning of our Penal Law,” Senior Judge Carmen Beauchamp Ciparick wrote for a majority of four of the six judges.


James D. Kent, a college professor, was indicted on two counts of promoting a sexual performance by a child and 141 counts of possessing a sexual performance by a child, convicted and sentenced to prison in 2009.


  May 9, 2012 – 1:59 PM ET | Last Updated: May 9, 2012 5:00 PM ET
Viewing child porn online is no longer a crime in the state of New York, following a ruling from the New York Court of Appeals on Tuesday.
James D. Kent, a college professor, was indicted on two counts of promoting a sexual performance by a child and 141 counts of possessing a sexual performance by a child, convicted and sentenced to prison in 2009. The appeals court dismissed one of the counts of promotion and one count of possession, but supported the other convictions.
The court’s decision hinged on the fact that the images were not downloaded, only viewed. The court ruled that it cannot prove possession of an image that was automatically stored in the computer’s cache without the owner of the computer’s consent.
Tens of thousands of images of prepubescent girls around the age of eight or nine were found in folders on Kent’s hard drive. Kent denies his guilt,  and has argued that someone else at Marist must have placed the images on his computer.They were found on his hard drive by an IT employee when Kent complained that his office computer was too slow. Kent teaches business administration at Marist College in Poughkeepsie, New York.
But some of the images were not downloaded by Kent; they were viewed online and stored as a file in his browser’s cache.
“Merely viewing Web images of child pornography does not, absent other proof, constitute either possession or procurement within the meaning of our Penal Law,” Senior Judge Carmen Beauchamp Ciparick wrote for a majority of four of the six judges.
“Rather, some affirmative act is required (printing, saving, downloading, etc.) to show that defendant in fact exercised dominion and control over the images that were on his screen,” Ciparick wrote.
The judges made it clear that they condemn child pornography, but Ciparick wrote that it was not up to the courts to “criminalize all use of child pornography to the maximum extent possible.” That, he wrote, is up to the legislature.
As the law stands, viewing an image online is not the same as possession, and thus not illegal.


http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/09/viewing-child-porn-on-the-web-now-legal-in-new-york/



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  • Syaoran_li003
    A lot of stuff are being socially acceptable today (drugs, homosexuality) on the basis that morality differs from one individual to another. "Morality is relative," they say. "Who are you to dictate what's right and what's wrong? Then shouldn't child pornography be accepted as drugs and homosexuality? As long as the child allows him/herself to be used for another person's pleasure, then shouldn't the act be permissible? I'm not saying I approve of child pornography, I want to give you a real, unbiased, post-modern view of the situation.
    I hope I spoke my mind well enough for you to understand. Think about it.

  • ososo
    Is Vic Toews on his way to New York ????????????

  • htroy
    I can't believe this! Oh my! This cannot be true. How dare they allow people to view the abuse, the perversion of children?? No...this cannot be true. Oh my dear Lord, what has our world become!!! Our societies, our world should never have allowed pronography, of any type, to be allowed in any way. You see, they opened pandora's box by alloweing immoral, abusive pornography and making some people think that it's ok, they legalized brothels, they legalized abortion, and now this... they unleashed the demons and now they are out in full to corrupt, pervert and destroy the human soul. This is digusting!!!

  • RH6
     Your comment is really not about laws but about moral values.  In Saudi Arabia, they used to give in marriage an 8 years old girl and nobody saw anything wrong with that.
    Even the prophet had a girl that age  if my information is correct.
    In the time of Nlle France (Québec circa 1700)  the age a girl could marry was 12,  and a boy  14.
    What about other countries?  What about China?   What about Russia?
    One aspect in our society that gets me is why all this noise about porn while in Canada, lawfully we allow 100  000 babies to be killed each year?

  • ososo
    When a person is so LORDY it reminds me of the Catholic school perverts that were Priests .... 

  • RH6
    Law does not solve much.  There are many laws forbidding drug traffic   Do you think it solves that matter?  It seems laws have replaced moral values.
    Pornography is more a problem of moral values than law.   Laws cannot replace the laws of God.  What kind of sex behaviours does the bible say we should adopt?  Have you researched this important matter?

  • David Cooper
    There is child pornography that is not abuse. Underage girls know computers and the internet. Voluntary acting out contains no abuse and looking at it is not a participation in abuse.There is no question that children must be protected but the law must be just for each case. The current scenario is to extrapolate all sexual misbehavour from the most brutal examples of it and to apply it to all. The fallout is an attack on all kinds of innocent people, from loss of employment to public shaming to divorce to having to move to another community with the possibility of harassment there - and this has nothing to do with the guilt or innocence of the accused. Rationality in this issue is long overdue. Congratulations to the judge in New York.

  • yinwu
    it should not be legal

  • orangeville john
    Once again the intellectual left takes society further into the gutters.

  • ososo
    Tell that to Vic Toews................

  • RH6
     I cannot see how?   Beware of not putting stickers on people.
    We understand sex behaviours are a touchy matter.  What you could do is see how other countries and societies view those matters.
    Did you likr bill C-30?  Abusing one way or another is abuse.  Freedom is to be protected, especially freedom of expression.

  • Mark Hansel
    Yup the kiddy porn judges on the loose, getting at your kids while making laws that protect molesters and criminals..

  • David Cooper
    Simplistic drivel.

  • RH6
     Nobody is saying cp is good.
    We are merely underlying the thought police which can lead to serious abuses of freedom and other manipulations.  As with the case of bill C-30 from Vic Toews.
    An image of something and the thing itself   are not the same thing.
    We need also to keep our laws to our country.  We have no business interfering with the laws of other countries who may have different opinions and culture on sex behaviours.

  • Mark Hansel
    Oh please, it plain to see government and the criminal courts jesters of molesters of children are all insane, I'm sure as they are blowing their goat god will get even worse down the road for all people and when it does the good people will rise up and remove these criminals from office. It only a matter of time and justice will be done one way or another

  • APDonovan
    The act of him viewing these photos isn't anything anyone can punish him for. He has not hurt anyone in the process of viewing these photos plain and simple. The person taking the photos, now that's wherein the problem lies.

  • Send_us_Doves
     What I wrote was apparently too strongly worded to gain approval to post. So I will just say this:
    Viewing kiddie porn, hurts, lots, of people.
    It hurts the kids who have to meet the 'demand'.
    It hurts the kids who will be taken next to meet the demand.
    It hurts the parents of the kids, the grandparents, the uncles and aunts and cousins and friends.
    It hurts every good mother and protective father.
    If you are participating in this sick kind of act, I pray you go seek help. Child porn HURTS a LOT of people.

  • RH6
     You are right brother.
    But remember the Lord has said we cannot pull the bad plants from the field
    (by using thought police) because we could hurt still more people than those you mention.
    Actually the Canadian laws have to be rewitten in a way to protect children without hurting other people,  without hurting freedom of expression.
    Like in any other domain police has to go after the authors of this, not the images
    .
    When police goes after drug dealers, they go after real people not images.
    Of course it is difficult but that is the work of police.

  • Mark Hansel
    any kiddy porn is sick and demented crap, you people who think it not a crime have serious mental illness.

  • RH6
     Exactly.  There is an awful lot of exageration in this domain.  Viewing murders, rapes, stealing does not mean one is going to become one of those criminals.
    Viewing cp or porn is not that nice but does not mean one is going to act on this.
    Justice has been going overboard ie going into injustice in matters of cp.  It is like holding trial for thinking.  Thinking about images or viewing them on a screen, not a big difference or impact.
    Obviously, if someone is actively taking pictures in a studio or promoting it by selling is another matter.  But much more work for police to go after!


2 comments:

  1. I am not at all surprised by an elected official
    making such a careless law..I am going through a contentious custody dispute and my judge gave the father/sexual & physical abuser full custody of our 3 & 5 yr old daughters. A step beyond viewing child porn..victimizing small, helpless children, actual incestual pedophilia. The biggest phenomenon plaguing our family courts today is pedophiles getting custody. Yes, that is true in America in 2012! This is happening because child abuse has become the biggest source of revenue for the courts. Yes, judges are condoning children to be physically & sexually abused all in the name of money & greed! It is the most despicable vile thing imaginable. Protective parents are losing their children to the abusers all over the country. I have never been so close to evil in my entire life. It is unconscionable and incomprehensible that Judges with children and grandchildren are making these decisions that put children in harm's way. Until we abolish judicial immunity and there is accountability, this will continue to pervade our family courts.

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  2. I remain astonished by the courts decision in your case. I am glad you are putting up a good fight. Is there anyway to get the case in front of another judge? I didn't think to ask you that before. Accountability is very important.

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